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Post by Bigtime® on Jun 9, 2008 14:50:15 GMT -5
WWW.ChicagoSE.Proboards55.com That is The Chicago Sports Entertainment Message Board. Recently, on CPW.com, you have seen feds like WCPW called liars when they posted their Battle of the Belts attendance numbers. You have seen ADC Promotions called "Scammers" and "Bleeders of fans" because they charge a higher ticket price. Is this the type of board that you want to post about your fed on? A board with such a dangerous clique mentality that they will try to embarrass your fed if they don't hang out with your promoter and drink and sing karaoke with them at after parties? The moderator lets that stuff go on over there. At CSE, you can get a fair shake. You can promote your fed without worry. Nobody on the CSE board will go out of their way to discredit your fed and it's efforts. CSE is CPW's Alternative, it's competition, it's thorn in it's side. All apply. We are the message board that the "powers that be" do not want you to know about. Every effort has been made to ban the link, ban the web address, ban any and all mention of this board. If CSE is truly irrelevent, why is there so much effort to make sure nobody knows about it? Come check out what all of the drama is about. We are looking for fed owners and fans to submit upcoming show information as well as results, and discussion of the scene. We need everyone to participate. There is something for everyone at CSE. Give it a try. All are welcomed. Tell your friends and pass along the web address. Post it in your myspace pages. Nobody from CSE is saying that you have to choose between the boards. Be a part of both. Then decide which one you prefer. Fair enough right? WWW.ChicagoSE.Proboards55.comSide Note: WCPW.com has CPW's link on their main page. This board recently called you liars in an attempt to discredit all the hard work that went into Battle of the Belts. Why work with them? Have you gained one extra ticket sale as a result? One more ounce of recognition as a result? Now they mock and ridicule your biggest show of the year? Switch to CSE. It's run by a worker that knows how to protect workers and feds. Even while disagreeing with your company over the years, I have still supported it and protected it from criticism. CSE is the right choice for you guys, despite the personal differences. Make the switch!
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Post by xyiom on Jun 9, 2008 19:59:54 GMT -5
You kick guys off if they don't agree with you period.
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Post by Bigtime® on Jun 9, 2008 20:25:57 GMT -5
You kick guys off if they don't agree with you period. That is just flat out not true. Join the board and see if I kick you off. |
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Post by charlieman3172 on Jun 9, 2008 22:20:37 GMT -5
i am on that board and they don't kick anybody off if u disagree
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Post by xyiom on Jun 10, 2008 19:10:36 GMT -5
BigTime does?  He might not be doing it now because he needs fans on there people coming to the board. |
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Post by xyiom on Jun 10, 2008 19:12:09 GMT -5
charlie you new so just listen, don't try to get mixed up in things you don't know?
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Post by Bigtime® on Jun 10, 2008 19:40:16 GMT -5
Zom and I don't have any heat between us that would cause us to swing on each other. We've seen each other at WCPW shows on and off since 2005. He's had a chance to get in my face and I've had the chance to get in his. We know that we don't necessarily like each other, so we take the professional approach and stay away from each other. There is nothing personal between us. It's not like we've insulted each other's family. I have said that when I knew ZOM in WCPW, he was a horrible worker. I have not worked with Zom in 7 years, so he's had plenty of chance to improve since. Has he? I don't know. I usually go to the washroom whenever his matches start. ;D
In all fairness, my opinion of his work is based on him sucking in the ring 7 years ago. I can say that he has worked out and improved his physique incredibly since 2001. Back then, he wouldn't work with his shirt off. Now he's proud to take his shirt off. So I give him credit for at least looking like a wrestler now.
I am a fair man. I give credit where it is due. He may be a lot more jacked up than I am, but I am the smarter wrestler and I could still find a way to beat him and win my Battle Royal Title back.
Now all you guys on this board have to do is convince Bret Sanders and Sam DeCero to pay my performance fee and I'll be happy to bless WCPW and it's fans with my presence once again.
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Post by xyiom on Jun 10, 2008 21:07:39 GMT -5
You suck at being a human being. Plain simple birds gotta fly fish gotta swim son deal with it I'm not here making a living at this. I do love it there are alot and I mean alot of wrestlers that suck. So for you to say that big deal. I mess with you because I like to so what? I never spent over five thousaund to promote a show only to have maybe ten to a dozen people show up. And on top of that kicking people out that you didn't like or wanted there I wasn't one of them that night. And be placing old things from your days at wcpw. Wishing you were back here? There are people who love to mess with me at wcpw shows (saying I suck) and there are people who like to see more of me And after some shows I hangout with them maybe have drinks etc..... So to attempt to whatever you call yourself doing? We know some of the same people and they'll tell you what you are saying is not going to faze ZOM. I wouldn't got there to Bad mouth your family son. You wouldn't come near me at shows out of fear that I would harm you. Let's face facts. I'm not mad at you like that if you speak you speak if you don't you don't. I'm still at wcpw I don't get mad and take my ball and go home?!
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Post by Bigtime® on Jun 11, 2008 10:24:18 GMT -5
Ugh, I know you have a hard time typing in english. Apparently, you have a hard time reading it as well.
1) I didn't say you sucked TODAY. I said that my previous comments about you sucking were based on what I knew of you 7 years ago. I admitted that I have not seen your work recently and cannot judge what kind of worker you are today. How much more fair can I be in my comments?
2) My show had 52 people with 46 paid. Get it right. If I was going to lie about my attendance figure, I wouldn't create the number 52. I'd say it was a couple hundred.
3) I spent $6000 on the show, not $5000.
4) I didn't kick a single person out of the show.
5) If I was wishing that I was back at WCPW, I wouldn't have turned them down in November when they asked me back. The money wasn't right. If I was a mark for myself who just wanted to play wrestler on the weekends, I would've jumped at the chance. I didn't.
6) I didn't say you'd talk about my family. I said that the thing between us is not personal. Meaning that we haven't said anything so serious to one another, like talking about each other's families. So basically, I dismissed this whole Bigtime/Zom internet feud as being a bunch of silly garbage with no real merit to it. Is that clear enough for you?
7) Do you really think I fear you? I have said far more personal things about Ripper Manson and I still went up to him in 05 and asked if I could sit at his table and he told me no. If I don't fear Ripper after talking crap about him, I am certainly not going to fear you. I have turned the other cheek when people got stupid at shows because I have a flawless reputation of having NEVER disrupted another promoter's show. That is why I avoid you. Am I supposed to come up to you and get into a shouting match in a hallway amongst the WCPW fans when I am a guest in WCPW's house? That's not going to happen.
8) When I left WCPW, I was one of, if not the most over guy on the shows. I was more than content with how I was being used on WCPW shows. I left because DeCero lied to me and to the boys about working with MCW. A lot of other people were pissed off about it too and even though they didn't leave with me, they left shortly after I did. About 12 workers in total. So I didn't take my ball and go home. I went on to work for other promotions, elevating their workers and getting their promotions talked about. However, you're right. You're still in WCPW 7 years later. Having never worked for any other feds. Having never progressed past WCPW. Brag about it all you want. However, don't blame me because you've been stuck in the same place for 7 years. Don't blame me because you're not good enough to get booked by anyone else. When a promoter is looking for talent to use on shows, I highly doubt one of the first thoughts in his head is "let's get that Zom guy. He sure knows how to work a battle royal". If I noticed correctly, in another thread, you're calling Bret Sanders out because you haven't even been booked on WCPW shows recently. How good can you be when your own company doesn't want to use you?
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Post by xyiom on Jun 11, 2008 18:52:26 GMT -5
Yes if dissmissed it but you continue to bite at each and every word I type hear? I never called him out I basically said that there are wrestlers that are not on the card that are on the rooster. And that there are wrestlers who are on the rooster that are not on the card. I'm Not in chicago why should I pregnant dog about not being booked on shows you now have to pay to go to. And it is strange that you can judge me in the ring even though you never seen me work in 7 years make up your mind? |
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Post by Bigtime® on Jun 12, 2008 11:00:16 GMT -5
Yes if dissmissed it but you continue to bite at each and every word I type hear? I never called him out I basically said that there are wrestlers that are not on the card that are on the rooster. And that there are wrestlers who are on the rooster that are not on the card. I'm Not in chicago why should I pregnant dog about not being booked on shows you now have to pay to go to. And it is strange that you can judge me in the ring even though you never seen me work in 7 years make up your mind? I never have to pay to get into WCPW shows. I have friends who leave me tickets at the door when I want to go. Wrong again Zom. As for me judging your work. The last time I saw you in the ring was in November at Rowan Park in a Battle Royal. Other than being impressed that you worked out and got a physique in the last 7 years, there was nothing remarkable about your work. Matter of fact, the thing I remember most about that Battle Royal was that you got showed up by a woman. Faith took one helluva bump from the apron to the floor that night and I complimented her after the show for taking the bump of the night. So yea, the only thing I cared to remember about your battle royal was that a woman performed better than you. |
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Post by wowposter on Nov 8, 2008 21:48:08 GMT -5
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He might not be doing it now because he needs fans on there people coming to the board.